Show me your tweeters folks, pretty please!!

[andycole]

Just in the process of fitting the Alpine type R comps to my motor and have got 3 options for tweeter mounting.

1. Flush in the door card (most of Dalcos are fitted like so)
2. On the back of the door mirror mounting
3. On/in the A pillar

Any pics or advice welcome.
Cheers
AC :lol:

[Fire_2]

i went Flush in the door card they very good.

[andycole]

i went Flush in the door card they very good.

was it easy to cut mate? A lecky drill and cutter can cause havoc!!
AC :lol:

[monkey boy kev]

I've got mine mounted on the back of where the wing mirror goes.

[wan_man]

I've got mine mounted on the back of where the wing mirror goes.

Same here........look n sound good, although i have infinitys

[mr prawn]

i put mine in the foot well..... just couldnt cut the door cards....

[LeeH]

Picture as promised Andy :)

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/9704/dsc004546lx.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[andycole]

Picture as promised Andy :)



Cheers mate
AC :lol:

[Funky]

I'll post pics of mine up on the weekend if you can hang on that long. I put mine behind the wing mirrors but in hindsight I should have tried a few different locations to see what sounded best.

Use some bluetak and try different positions to see what sounds best to you, remember what sounds good for me might not sound so good to you, its all about personal preference.

Good luck.

[andycole]

I'll post pics of mine up on the weekend if you can hang on that long. I put mine behind the wing mirrors but in hindsight I should have tried a few different locations to see what sounded best.

Use some bluetak and try different positions to see what sounds best to you, remember what sounds good for me might not sound so good to you, its all about personal preference.

Good luck.

Good point mate, i'll try the bluetack trick.
Gotta trim the door metal tom to get the speaker in the hole, then i can get onto the tweeters after that!!
Cheers
AC :lol:

[zeffania]

Mine are in the footwell as I was trying to keep mine closer to the source

[Hobbes]

Mine are in the footwell as I was trying to keep mine closer to the source

:? Tweeters in the footwells

Personally being an Audio "Hussy" that I am, If I had components you want the tweeters around Ear level...........

However depends on how much you wanna hack your car around.

Just the sound will be bouncing round in the footwells first before "washing" out into the car............ as I said its only because I'm so anal about music and sound............... you should see the trouble I'm having convincing my folks to mount their surround sound kit speakers in the right places!!!!


LOL!

[moNoKnoT]

Picture as promised Andy :)

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/9704/dsc004546lx.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I got these too, no pics *** :P

- Kevin.

[zeffania]

I can see your point Hobbes but you have the main speaker down there so both have to travel up as opposed to the tweeter being by your head and the main speaker by your foot.

When you finally get your arse over to mine so we can do your mesh I will show you :wink:

[N77]

Mine are in the same place on the mirror back plates, but I fancy some of Dalcos A Pillars, they look at home there.

You fitted them yet then Andy


Carl

[wan_man]

Mine are in the footwell as I was trying to keep mine closer to the source

:? Tweeters in the footwells

Personally being an Audio "Hussy" that I am, If I had components you want the tweeters around Ear level...........

However depends on how much you wanna hack your car around.

Just the sound will be bouncing round in the footwells first before "washing" out into the car............ as I said its only because I'm so anal about music and sound............... you should see the trouble I'm having convincing my folks to mount their surround sound kit speakers in the right places!!!!


LOL!

Agree with ya Hobbes, I've always been told that tweeters should be placed higher up, not near the footwell where the mids are......

[andycole]

Cheers folks, got them bluetacked to the mirror plates at the mo, back at home tuesday when i reackon i'll fix em on permanently.
AC :lol:

[Gizmo-R]

May as well add my 2pence worth to this!!

My Alcantara Clad Tweeter builds:
http://www.bladeice.com/martin/CTR%20029.jpg

http://www.bladeice.com/martin/CTR%20030.jpg[/img]

[monkey boy kev]

I've got mine mounted on the back of where the wing mirror goes.

Same here........look n sound good, although i have infinitys

DLS components from Dalco for me. Very pleased and good location to fit them IMO.

[Red]

Mine are in the footwell as I was trying to keep mine closer to the source

:? Tweeters in the footwells

Personally being an Audio "Hussy" that I am, If I had components you want the tweeters around Ear level...........

However depends on how much you wanna hack your car around.

Just the sound will be bouncing round in the footwells first before "washing" out into the car............ as I said its only because I'm so anal about music and sound............... you should see the trouble I'm having convincing my folks to mount their surround sound kit speakers in the right places!!!!


LOL!

Well, techincally, you're wrong :wink:

I really read up on this when I was installing a system, and I mean REALLY read up on it. The average audiophile declares that the tweeters should be at ear level, or at least at dash level and pointing up to the ears, but the real hardcore motherf*ckers agree that they should be as close to the mid drivers as possible to elimiate delay between the two sounds.

Unless you've got the ability to delay the tweeter sound by fractions of milliseconds then the only solution is to have both sounds coming from the same place or very close to each other.

I'm sure 99.9% of people couldn't really tell either way (including me) but if you want to be really audio freaky about it then this is the way to go.

I did this in my old civic to see if I could notice the difference. I don't think I could to be honest, but it definitely didn't sound any worse, and it did seem to alter the sound stage in a good way. It was very balanced and seemed to fill the car a lot better.

The only problem with tweeters in the footwell is you need to angle them quite steeply up towards you or, as you say, the sound gets directed into people legs!

[Gizmo-R]

I used to have mine in the footwell close to the woofer by pointing upwards in a cross-direction path accross the cabin. It sounded more complete with the comps I was running in me old car

[Funky]

Mine are in the footwell as I was trying to keep mine closer to the source

:? Tweeters in the footwells

Personally being an Audio "Hussy" that I am, If I had components you want the tweeters around Ear level...........

However depends on how much you wanna hack your car around.

Just the sound will be bouncing round in the footwells first before "washing" out into the car............ as I said its only because I'm so anal about music and sound............... you should see the trouble I'm having convincing my folks to mount their surround sound kit speakers in the right places!!!!


LOL!

Well, techincally, you're wrong :wink:

I really read up on this when I was installing a system, and I mean REALLY read up on it. The average audiophile declares that the tweeters should be at ear level, or at least at dash level and pointing up to the ears, but the real hardcore motherf*ckers agree that they should be as close to the mid drivers as possible to elimiate delay between the two sounds.

Unless you've got the ability to delay the tweeter sound by fractions of milliseconds then the only solution is to have both sounds coming from the same place or very close to each other.

I'm sure 99.9% of people couldn't really tell either way (including me) but if you want to be really audio freaky about it then this is the way to go.

I did this in my old civic to see if I could notice the difference. I don't think I could to be honest, but it definitely didn't sound any worse, and it did seem to alter the sound stage in a good way. It was very balanced and seemed to fill the car a lot better.

The only problem with tweeters in the footwell is you need to angle them quite steeply up towards you or, as you say, the sound gets directed into people legs!

Thats why the most fussy audiophiles would use time alignment :wink:

[Red]

Thats why the most fussy audiophiles would use time alignment :wink:

Yeah but how many people go that far in a car audio setup? :) I can understand it for home cinema where the speakers are static but in a car that's just going too far.

[Funky]

Thats why the most fussy audiophiles would use time alignment :wink:

Yeah but how many people go that far in a car audio setup? :) I can understand it for home cinema where the speakers are static but in a car that's just going too far.

Many headunits come with TA as standard, Alpine 9855 and Pioneer 8600 for example. IIRC Pioneer do auto TA as well via a microphone :)

[Red]

Thats why the most fussy audiophiles would use time alignment :wink:

Yeah but how many people go that far in a car audio setup? :) I can understand it for home cinema where the speakers are static but in a car that's just going too far.

Many headunits come with TA as standard, Alpine 9855 and Pioneer 8600 for example. IIRC Pioneer do auto TA as well via a microphone :)

I've never been convinced that those auto jobbies with microphones could actually work well in a car. It's just not a good environment for audio at all.

[Gizmo-R]

I've never been convinced that those auto jobbies with microphones could actually work well in a car. It's just not a good environment for audio at all.

I agree here. My mate tried it with one of his pioneers. Not only did it takes agaes to do, it sounded awful afterwards


Best thing to do it to play it by the ears and fine tune it according to you taste and perhap to the kind of music you listen to most!


Still fine tuning mine! :D

[Durzel]

Regardless of a cars crappy acoustics compared to a home hifi system, time alignment does make a big difference. It stands to reason really, if one speaker is 3-4x as far from you as another then without any TA you're gonna unconciously hear the track at different times in each ear.

If you play around with TA you can definitely hear the sound move around the car. :)

[kingbuttmunch]

can't you just put the where the factory fitted one are?

[zeffania]

heres mine

http://upload4.postimage.org/514858/all.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/cars/honda/type-r-owners/514858/car.html)

http://upload4.postimage.org/514867/red.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/cars/honda/type-r-owners/514867/car.html)