:lol:Ron's got strange views on what he regards as competition for the Type R, he's happy to say it's comparable to car's with more power but he's not happy when it's compared to car's with less power, I personally think he's a badge snob.
You obviously don't know me at all.Ron's got strange views on what he regards as competition for the Type R, he's happy to say it's comparable to car's with more power but he's not happy when it's compared to car's with less power, I personally think he's a badge snob.
You obviously don't know me at all.
That's the thing with internet forums, it is all too easy to form the wrong opinion of somebody when all you have to go on is the written word, which is open to interpretation.
Allow me to clarify about Renault.....
Yes they absolutely have a strong heritage in motorsport, but their fast road cars are a niche market....much more so than Honda's. Also they do not have a particularly good brand image when it comes to road cars.
When I said a step down it was mainly meant tongue in cheek, as indicated by my choice of emojis........but I was also being semi serious as explained above.
P.S. My views on what cars are in the same "class" as a Type R will most likely be with the majority, doesn't matter whether you personally agree with me or not. :smt058
They are ALL regarded as "hot hatches" though.
So you have in fact formed an opinion on me based on what I say, which was exactly my point. We would probably get on perfectly well in real life.
So you have in fact formed an opinion on me based on what I say, which was exactly my point. We would probably get on perfectly well in real life.
I fully acknowledge that Renault have a long tradition of producing good fast cars, but their modern day image is not what it was. It would be interesting to see recent sales figures for hot Honda models against hot Renaults....because I believe the former would win.
I am no fanboy either, but I would be willing to bet that public opinion puts Honda ahead of Renault in the UK.
I did say in our earlier debate that we are never going to see eye to eye. :lol:
You can dress it up how you like Marc, but you have formed an opinion of me based on the written word. This is what I have been saying all along. :lol:
Honda entered F1 many years before Renault and achieved their first title 6 years before the latter, by coincidence both were with the same team. However the overall battle as constructor or engine supplier does go to Renault with 10 titles compared with 6 for Honda, although the latter was achieved consecutively. Now that is dominance whichever way you look at it.
You can dress it up how you like Marc, but you have formed an opinion of me based on the written word. This is what I have been saying all along. :lol:
I am only referring to recent Honda/Renault history, not going back to when their relative hot hatches were first produced.
Miaow!!
Can we simply agree to disagree now?
And everyone knows the ep3 is betterTo be fair , it’s just rinse and repeat from the Fn2 / ep3 days
I never started anything Marc, I simply made a post partly in jest as I explained.
I never started anything Marc, I simply made a post partly in jest as I explained.
You weren't even involved in what I said but took it upon yourself to be derogatory towards me in post #61 by calling me a badge snob, which I am absolutely not.
You may have been joking, but it was clearly you that started this exchange.
I'm sure everybody is getting tired of reading our posts now, so I will be the bigger man and make this my last on the subject.
You obviously don't know me at all.
That's the thing with internet forums, it is all too easy to form the wrong opinion of somebody when all you have to go on is the written word, which is open to interpretation.
Allow me to clarify about Renault.....
Yes they absolutely have a strong heritage in motorsport, but their fast road cars are a niche market....much more so than Honda's. Also they do not have a particularly good brand image when it comes to road cars.
When I said a step down it was mainly meant tongue in cheek, as indicated by my choice of emojis........but I was also being semi serious as explained above.
P.S. My views on what cars are in the same "class" as a Type R will most likely be with the majority, doesn't matter whether you personally agree with me or not. :smt058
They are ALL regarded as "hot hatches" though.
