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FK2 FK2-R Changing Gear Issues

There is a garage called honda hq based in cannock. I've been advised to go there and get it checked by them as I've heard they are honda specialists.

It's 21 deg c today not sure if weather plays a part...

let us know how you get on at HondaHQ. it's on my bookmarks as a place to try - far closer than Dream or TDI.
temps definitely make a difference. much like the feel of the car between winter/cold engine and summer/hot engine.

as others have noted, clutch up and down to retry always seems to fix it for me. what i'm thinking is the gears aren't that well designed in how they mesh between changes. when you get half engagement, it's like the gears can't mesh. clutch up & down and the gears will move slightly and engage at a different point. It's the only honda i've had this on (4th one now, maybe last). reverse has always done it from new for me, which includes 2 clutches & gearbox repair.
 
All,

Thanks for all the replies. I have tried all the things suggested but they don't seem to work.

Putting into reverse first time seems sporadic but definitely after the car is parked overnight it never seems to fall in nicely.

There are too many variables to find out under what conditions I'm having this issue.

The only way I can definitely get it into reverse is clutch down to the floor put into 3rd and then it slips into reverse ok.

I'm going to get this seen my honda hq will keep you guys posted.

Appreciate the replies. Cheers
 
All,

I messaged honda hq this afternoon and I got a response.

They said there is nothing they can do and suggested that I keep doing what I'm doing putting the gear into 3rd and then into reverse in one transaction. That's what works for me.

They did mention if its never had it's gearbox oil changed then that could help but said don't bet your money on it.

They said honda gearboxes are like this generally, so it is what it is.

Hope this may put a close to others who have a similar issue.

The main thing for me is there is nothing to worry about.

Thanks all those that replied to my thread

Cheers
 
some honda boxes then.... or maybe it's just the new stuff. 1.5LSI civic, '95 vtec prelude and '00 s2000 never had issues, but thats at least 15 years between them and the FK2.
i do get a sense of 'weight' in the gearbox. seems to prefer slightly slower shifts than the s2k did and almost like it's waiting for the gearbox momentum to slow down (bear in mind i'm SMF and not using stock clutch/flywheel).
 
Experienced the Op's reverse lockout this morning and it reminded me that I actually have experienced this quite a few times in the past but thought nothing of it, It's like you're against something solid.
I naturally did what I've always done and that's let the stick go back to centre and it slips straight in after that,
It had been a while since I last had it but I'd say to the OP it's a normal niggle and nothing to worry about
 
I had similar problems which my dealer and Honda wouldn’t rectify, they tried to blame
Me or previous owners and then couldn’t reproduce it, even though another
Dealer already had a look and said there were problems.

1st gear wouldn’t always engage going from neutral for example at lights, you would have to keep the clutch in and then go into 2nd or 3rd to then get into 1st.
2nd would occasionally grind if for example you were changing as going around a roundabout so turning when changing,
4th gear wouldn’t engage sometimes when coming down the gears 6th>5th>4th, had to coast into a roundabout before now.

I did find that between the gears is a little slot that the shifter can end up in but I’m fairly certain it wasn't this causing me a problem.

In the end I got an FK8 instead and touch wood for the last 5 months it’s been fine.
 
i'm still somewhat early days with everything i've done... Xtreme clutch&SMF (Nov'18), all acuity shift bushes (1-2months) and uprated rear engine mount (1 week ago) have made shifts beautiful.

not sure which one of those i prefer more as they all compliment each other. Acuity bushes are cheapest, then rear mount. Xtreme SMF not cheap but clutch will need replacing one day and it's eliminated the rev hang the FK2 has so something to seriously consider.
 
All,

I have great news on this issue.

I went for my 4th year service and went to Honda hq in cannock.

After telling them the problem I had over Facebook some time back they decided to change my gearbox oil for me in the service.

My gear changing is no longer notchy and my gearstick slips nicely into the gears now way better than before.

It's also quiet when changing gears. I've only had it done today but it's made a massive improvement. I recommend it if you have a similar issue.

I will have to wait till the winter to see if it's made that big step improvement but as of today it's made a massive difference

Well happy
 
give it a few weeks before you decide it's definitely fixed it. had oil done in mine but problem re-occured a few weeks later after the 'shine' of the new oil was taken off.
 
Good point! I spoke too soon had 1st gear lockout today on a 10 minute run in town.

Epic fail. Damn! Still smooth gear changes but I'll monitor it

Cheers
 
How you getting on with it ?
I’ve seen tooo many complaints for it to be down to driver error.
Especially when you’ve let the car warmup / driven it for a while before any issues.
Honda must surely know what it is ? Is this detectable on a test drive ?
 
replied to your PM, anomaly.

tldr; imo it's a clutch engagement issue. gearbox is consequential.
 
All,

So I had my gearbox oil changed 2 weeks ago today. Since then I have travelled a total of 754 miles which included a return journey to Scotland.

My conclusion is the gearbox oil change has made a significant improvement in changing gears. Majority of the time it’s not ‘clunky’ and is quiet when changing gears. The gear transactions are also much smoother in the hand.

I posted above that I did have a 1st gear lock-out but the car hadn’t warmed up. I have done a good run of the car now and I’m pleased with the results. Its much more of a pleasant experience now.

Thanks
 
All Hondas have seemed to experience the first gear thing, in my experience from the EP3 onwards at least. Into second then back into first and you're sorted.
 
I had a look again at a youtuber who has this issue months ago with his FK8
looks like he managed to get it fixed by having the clutch master cylinder repaired / replaced, (It controls the clutch release etc) after getting his gearbox changed but still having problems.
Seems like it worked.
The top comment on his YouTube vid says this has been a common problem in the states over the last 12 or
So with people he worked with who had turbod Hondas
LINK : https://youtu.be/oVHK8rd0QPA
 
Mine occasionally grumbles going into 5th when cold but other then that silky smooth, 16 plate with 12,000 miles.
 
I'm fairly sure when I looked into the slave cylinder it only delays the clutch engagement not release
 
fk8 master cylinder to pedal connection is different to the FK2. we're fixed with no adjustment possible. if CMC was replaced on FK8 i'm almost sure that'll mean they need to re-adjust the pedal, and if the FK8 threads are correct it's the adjustment and not strictly the master cylinder.

also, FK2 CMC doens tlook too nice to change. got AC pipes in the way down the back of the engine so those will likely need to move and there doesnt seem to be much flex available.
 
the mod everyone seems to talk about is to remove the delay valve from the slave cylinder and nothing to do with the master cylinder unless theres something new?
 
been there, CDV made no difference for me. also goes hand in hand with a bleed, which i found the 2man method with locked nipple when down the way to get it bled. vacuum was useless and i don't have the kit for pressure.

... by all means, give it a go. it only costs a bit of time and a bleed so one of the cheapest DIY options out there.
 
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