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FK2 FK2-R Changing Gear Issues

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All,

Hope you are all well and hopefully someone can help…

1st Problem:

Since last October when I start my car in the morning, I can’t get the gear into reverse straight away. It feels like the gear is stuck when trying to pull down into reverse. I don’t want to force it into place.

To get it into reverse, once I’ve started the car, I put it into 3rd gear (No Problem) and then put the gear into reverse and it goes in. The clutch pedal is held down only once during this entire transition.

I have been doing that since last Oct till this day. I can’t understand why this is happening. Some people mention it’s because the gearbox oil is cold, or the gearbox linkages are causing this issue….or in fact the gearbox oil needs replacing with a different grade…


Note: Even when the car has done a 15 mile motorway journey, it still sometimes doesn’t slip nicely first time into reverse…..



2nd Problem:

At the traffic lights I tried to put the gear into first but wouldn’t go all the way in and stopped half way! I had to put it into 2nd (No problem) and then into 1st again and only then it went in. Again, the clutch pedal is held down only once during this entire transition. This has happened only 3 times in the 8 months I’ve had the car.

This happened when I had done a 40 mile motorway journey and had parked the car for about an hour, started the car, drove about 5 miles, town and a bit of motorway.

Again god knows why this is happening.

Anyone had similar issues?? I know there is a thread on this but it doesn’t mention gear changes in reverse.

I have nearly had my 2015 FK2-R for 8 months. The winter gone has been my 1st winter driving it and its done about 14k miles on the clock.


Appreciate the help ta
 
does 2nd gear go in smoothly? when i had issues with mine, 1st&2nd were worse.
i found 1st gear would act like a worn clutch, and 2nd would be really fussy if it wanted to go in first time.
 
2nd gear goes in fine. its only the reverse gear most of the time and 1st gear once in a blue moon

i think im going to get the car seen by some honda specialists and not the dealer as i dont believe they will do anything about it.
 
Parked on an incline, handbrake fully engaged?

I have this OCD thing of running through my gears when I get to work and again at home, with the engine off (just to prepare myself if there's any change in gear changes).
Sometimes it goes 1st to reverse smooth as anything and if I do it again straightaway it can refuse 6th or reverse, I've found a little bum shuffle in my seat to jolt the car or giving the handbrake another click helps, I park on a slight incline and I do wonder if after my manoeuvre the gears are sometimes left under a slight load and the shuffle or extra click helps to take any pressure off
 
Parked on an inclined driveway yes. handbrake is not fully up but only on 2 clicks up.

personally i feel we shouldnt need to do al these things. the gear changing should be smooth. after all its a car designed for racing!

My 2003 seat leon had issues going into reverse on very cold mornings but that was only during winter which is a common thing. other than that i never had issues with that car. it had done 196k miles! was such a reliable car.
 
Mines only when engine off though, no issues running,
I'd try engaging the handbrake more, it might be under strain if on and incline.

I occasionally have 1st issues but this is near always approaching a junction, I find the revs need to be quite low for 1st to be selected
 
yes i have that too when im slowing down to a stop, 1st gear is sometimes difficult but its not too bad when im nearly about to stop its fine.

ill try pulling up the handbrake more and see what happens. thanks for the tip.

will respond when ive tried later today! ta
 
I think with the dreaded gearbox issue it's more whilst driving up to speed and definitely noticeable,
I had very similar issues in my Fn2 even after a box rebuild so I've learnt to except the Honda gear niggles
 
Sounds like a linkage issue, have you checked under the bonnet that they are not being obstructed?
 
so does that mean i shouldnt worry about it and just live with it? this is my first honda.

Yes would do that for the time being, these boxes are great but do seem to have their idiosyncrasies. EP3 box was funny into second, fd2 could be a bit notchty occasionally into 3rd. I occasionally can't get 1st and seem to remember reverse being the same once or twice also 4th to 5th when cold can catch sometimes.
 
Mines only when engine off though, no issues running,
I'd try engaging the handbrake more, it might be under strain if on and incline.

I occasionally have 1st issues but this is near always approaching a junction, I find the revs need to be quite low for 1st to be selected

Ok So I pulled the handbrake all the way up, started the car and put it into reverse. the problem still persists and locks when i try to pull it down into reverse. I had to do it 3 times before it went in. 3rd time went in.

Went for a 15 mile drive turned the car off, was on a flat surface, handbrake all the way up and it went into reverse on the 2nd try.

doing a comparison when the handbrake was fully up against being up only a few clicks, there was no difference and getting it into reverse the first time was still difficult. therefore the handbrake being part up or fully up or if the car is on an incline or flat surface the problem persists....
 
It's a new one for me on the FK2, I know the clutch pedal can be cheeky and needs to be basically on the floor, it caught a few out back in 2015 and caused a few lazy shifts.
I do remember an fn2 type r owner who had these issues and he fixed it by adjusting his clutch pedal.

What area are you based, maybe someone close by who could do comparisons
 
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It's a new one for me on the FK2, I know the clutch pedal can be cheeky and needs to be basically on the floor, it caught a few out back in 2015 and caused a few lazy shifts.
I do remember an fn2 type r owner who had these issues and he fixed it by adjusting his clutch pedal.

What area are you based, maybe someone close by who could do comparisons

This is bizarre. I've just left the house to get cash put it into reverse to get out of my driveway and it slipped into reverse no problem! Not sure if the 30 mile journey I did 3 hours prior helped.

Either way this is very annoying for me.

I live in the east Midlands.

There is a garage called honda hq based in cannock. I've been advised to go there and get it checked by them as I've heard they are honda specialists.

Appreciate the posts mate, really want to get this sorted it's very annoying and a car this expensive and well equipped it's a frown on honda.



It's 21 deg c today not sure if weather plays a part...
 
Sounds like a linkage issue, have you checked under the bonnet that they are not being obstructed?

Thanks for the reply mate. I've heard before it could be a linkage issue. Honestly have no idea where to look under the bonnet and how to identify an obstruction
 
Not teaching you to suck eggs, but when it won’t go into gear, have you tried lifting off the clutch slightly whilst trying to get it into gear? Just lift off until it slips into gear, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t!
 
What's the clutch pedal feel like, and where does the clutch catch when releasing pressure on the pedal?
 
whenever I've had mine not go in gear straight away it's been after start up but a quick clutch up then back down pump always sorts it
 
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