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worth it for the pizza in the cafe
And the hot dog!
worth it for the pizza in the cafe
Just bought a full set of MP4S at Cosco for £785
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Cosco price is all in, inc fitting. £100 off 4 Michelins till the 31st.i found camskill cheaper when i bought a month ago, although come to think of it, that was tyres only. not sure how costco charge - inc fitting?
Had a track day at Bedford today. Front Contis took a bit of battering. What tyre pressures do people tend to run while on track? Think I was running too high.
Was thinking of alternative, longer wearing tyres such as the P4S, but this (new?) test using a Type R has the Contis out in front so may have to suck up the cost
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2019-Sport-Auto-20-Inch-UHP-Tyre-Test.htm
Do we have any alternative (and cheaper than OEM) aftermarket wheels available yet?
Some other observations:
Similar to some owners across the pond the temperature gauge was rising to the top - not sure if this is an issue and no warning signs came on but I'm convinced I was down on power.
I turned off the stability control completely and the car was very benign - apparently if it's left on rear pad wear is high as the car brakes the inner rear to tuck the nose in.
quite possibly all of what you say is true & accurate.
conti's are useless on track. too soft. ime on the FK2, PS4S's are minimum track tyre - specifically an 80/20 road/track tyre focus. I needed a set of 4 tyres, so tested the 4s's on my last trackday and were good, but bought a 2nd pair as cup2's. will hopefully be testing them on track in a few months.
pressures depends on tyres. my dunlop RT2's rolled over so far onto the sidewall i was running 38-40PSI hot. i ran ps4s's around 34hot & cup2's are recommended by michelin as around 32-34c hot; so essentially i'm using pressures as per the B-pillar sticker. Since we've got a heavy car, i'm using what the Evo and 911 guys are doing with tyres - they dont seem to be touching one of the popular trackday tyres (although i forget which, maybe AD08R) as it's just cant cope with the typeR weight. let the lightweight caterham&lotus guys use them.
just incase your not aware, goodyear are releasing their supersport tyres throughout this year. i'm keeping an eye on that to see how their 2 top tier models fair. currently nothing available that fit the FK2 19".
which temp gauge - oil or water? seen both commented about on civicx. theres an ebay grill that improves cooling, although i'd remove the grill on my next trackday as a test as i'm suspect at just how much of an improvement it makes to the water temps.
oil does get hot. if your serious about trackdays, then definitely get an oil cooler. I've peaked oil at 132c on track after about 15mins. oil cooler dropped temps on my FK2 to 115c max over 20-25mins without needing cool down laps.
with both of these contributing to intake air temps, i'd say very possible you were down on power. Intercooler upgrade is well worth investing and i noticed an improvement even in summer rushhour traffic with TDI-Norths cooler.
oh yeah, forget the FK8 doesn't have oil temp. going a bit OT here since it is a tyre thread, but take another look at civicx for custom OBD PID's.
i'll know more about how the cup2's wear in mid-june. with them being 180 wear, and early june being my next trackday it's going to be interesting with tread life vs edge wear vs tyre cost and how they compare to the dunlop RT2 (not a track tyre) and the PS4S which i ran last time up front.
PS4S's took a reasonable beating on the outer edge so i'd guestimate 3 trackdays and you'd be down to cords, but thats ignoring the fact you'd ideally rotate your best tyre on the loaded front.
https://www.civicx.com/threads/pids-for-torque-torque-pro.23291/page-2
https://www.civicx.com/threads/supported-pids.27069/
might help you decide on IAT, and an exact coolant temp since the gauge doesn't tell you (nothing on the iMID/whatever FK8 has for coolant?)
I have just checked the tread on my fronts. They are just about on the 3mm mark.
I will have had about four and a half thousand out of this pair of Continentals, so I am going to order two Michelin Pilot Sport 4s and see how I go with those!
I really don’t understand how it’s possible to wear out the Conti’s over this distance?...
Mine did 12k and still weren’t shot. Admittedly rotated every 4K. The first few thousand were done when the car was a demo, so nothing to do with me and then included a dry track-day too.
I’ve had a race-licence and competed in the past and trained with ex-police instructors, so I like to think I don’t hang about... could it be down to sympathetic car control?...
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I swapped the tyres over from new on mine. Now running Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2's which have been fantastic for road and track.
I recently did a 1000 mile road trip in Wales, through extremely wet and rainy weather. They were brilliant - when the tread depth gets low you'd need to be careful of standing water though.
As an aside, I have four OEM Continentals with as new tread depth for sale if anyone's interested...