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Ball joints

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Just a question i have a knocking noise coming from the ns when igo round rounabouts or turn out to the right but not going over bumps which i think the ball joints need replacing as its wen the weight is tranfered i get the knock. Anywer in essex where i could get them replaced? Also isit worth gettin buddyclub ball joints or normal?
 
That sounds like a CV joint to me, especially if its not making a noise when going over bumps. I would get it checked before buying parts so you are not wasting money.

In regards to the buddyclub ball joints it depends entirely on your cars ride height. If you have lowered the car more than 40mm then yes you will need them. The lower control arms must have a slope downwards from the centre of the car or the suspension will not function properly and cause poor handling and increased understeer. These buddyblub balljoints increase the distance between the hub and the lower control arm which makes them point further down, only required with big height drops.
 
Thanks for the reply mate, alot of good information there. I will do just that just finding somewhere that knows these cars around essex tbh to have a look. If its the cv joint whats my option? New driveshafts? Its only 1 side and tbh my car hasnt handled as wheel as i thought it would feels a little edgey? My car is lowered on meister zeta r coilovers. Hmmm
 
If it is a CV joint then you just change the CV joint, no need to change the whole drive shaft. You dont need to find a honda specialist to check the balljoint/ cv joint I would just go to a reputable garage who wont try to rip you off.

Your handling could be off because of the ride height, these cars are not meant to be lowered, you can drop them around 1 inch without causing problems but any more than that and you will create major problems. Being on coilovers Im going to assume your car is lowered more than 1 inch? When you are next at the car, bend down and look at the lower control arms front and rear, note the angle of them. If they are angled upwards then your car is too low, anything above horizontal is too low. Ideally you want them to be pointing down. If you do not want to raise the car then you will need to fit the buddyclub ball joints on the front to try and angle the LCA's down.

The reason for this, if you are interested, is due to the way cornering forces are dealt with by the suspension. On a standard ride height the LCA's are pointing down, when the car corners the outer LCA becomes horizontal with the subframe and transfers the lateral corner forces through the cars subframe.

When you lower a car to the point that the LCA's are horizontal or angled upwards, when you corner the LCA is pushed even further up and instead of using the cars subframe to transfer forces, it will send them up through the suspension causing them to compress even more and create understeer. You can overcome this by fitting higher spring rates but this would then create an even worse ride.
 
Look what I found on the buddyclub website:



This diagram basically shows what I was explaining above, look at the lower control arms in the standard and lowered car and you can see how the forces are distributed. It also conveniently displays how the buddyclub ball joints work and why you need them.
 
Great piece of advice mate, great information. I can see exackly whats happening with how u was explaining it, i will *** to take it to a garage then get them to check it out as u said. It isnt low low as i dnt like the tyres in the arches lol do you know anywhere that sells the cv joints or is ebay the only way forward ?
 
If car is very lowered(slammed) then you will need extended ball joints,without them handling never will be like on non lowered car,we run those ball joints(Bump/Roll centre kit called on Subaru) on our previous car and has transformed handling on the lowered car.With those ball joints you will have for sure better handling,if you are lowering car you will need to use or have them

Thanks,Jura
 
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