thanks bud, yeah i agree there, they do look nice when washed and there a pain to keep clean, shows every bit of dirt aaaahhhhh, a £190 lighter in my pocket too, theres also the creaking on the steering and the garage have said its a common fault with them, possible new steering rack, but im going to get some spray grease the weekend and spray behind the rubber gators see if its that, wd40 is good but soon drys out, so spray grease should help, if i remove the metal gator ties and replace them with zip ties and im gonna save up and get her poly bushed tbh and he said at the garage, it will increase stress on the steering with it being so low, but with him saying a steering rack is £300+ plus labour on top and vat, ill try anything first