ah ok, fair enough, i still have a rattle if anyone wants to diagnose it?
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oil changed, recent valve clearance, sounds coming from rear of engine, i would say that it was 10 - 20 centimeters below the spark plug cover, also sounds loud around the exhaust manifold, i have removed all heat shields and the vtec cover and still persists, any ideas??