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Ep3 sloppy gearstick.

I was told, that OEM bushes have slight play in them for a reason, and that fitting solid bushes puts extra strain on the cables and the links.

BUT!!! This may just be on my application for Drag Racing where smashing it into gear happens quite a lot.
 
I had the same problem, perhaps not quite as extreme as that but the tegiwa solid shifter bushes and short shifter undoubtedly helped a huge amount
 
I had the same problem, perhaps not quite as extreme as that but the tegiwa solid shifter bushes and short shifter undoubtedly helped a huge amount

I'm hoping it will help, it almost feels like I'm in neutral even when I'm in gear! Lol.

And does the tegiwa set consist of the bushes around the gear stick area, and the ones at the other end of the gear cable?
 
^ yes. There's 8 of the same bush which fit around the gear stick mounts and 2 big ones and 2 other small thicker ones for t'other end in the engine bay. It's a fiddly, annoying job.

Tom, I had thought that myself but when I felt the play in the cables and considered how tough the rubber was, I concluded that the rubber will probably never compress because the cable will move first.
 
Perhaps yours where in ok'ish condition then as my rubber mounts were soft and easy to push out. Some of the horizontal travel is in the shifter unit itself for sure, which can only be sorted by getting a buddyclub shift unit or an oem replacement
 
Hi guys.
Fitted the bushes. There is a good improvement in all round 'tightness'. But the sloppyness is still there,
I had a proper look whilst it was all out and the play mainly seems to be coming from where the gear lever bar goes into the plastic ball at the bottom.

Was maybe thinking about glueing it where the play is and see if it improves anything?
 
Ive got my old OEM Shifter if you want to give that a try. There was no where near as much play in it as your suffering with.
 
I have been told the same thing about the shifter bushes (as in the ones at the gearbox end) and been told if you have play in the cables then it can actually make it worse as it "tightens" everything up and so can make it more stiff going into gear and increase the rate of wear in both the cables and the white plastic bits. This was from a very well trusted honda specialist.

As for the play, i have some slight play in mine (i thought mine was bad but mine is 1/4 of what yours is). The problem seems to be that the plastic socket on the end of the cables wear. this leads to play in them (ie you move the gearstick an amount to take up the play before you move the cable) and then it leads to uneven loading on the cables which stretches them as well. only way to solve it is to replace the cables which in parts alone is expensive.
 
So guys is it normal to move a lot when in gear? If it is normal and they way it should be then fine but otherwise, any pointers of what is going wrong?
 
It isn't normal no but it does happen. As the plastic parts in the gear stick wear they allow play which then allows the gear stick to move (both side to side and front to back) when in gear. Mine has been like it for well over a year now but is only about 10-15 mm either way. The only real solution is to replace the whole unit (as in the whole gear stick assembly) although there is a thread on another forum about a company who are in the process of making an upgrade kit. Not sure how much that will cure the problem though as from what I have found most of the wear is in the large white ball joint that the whole thing pivots on which is plastic.
 
That does not sound too good :scare:
Let us know if you find the required parts of this please...

It isn't normal no but it does happen. As the plastic parts in the gear stick wear they allow play which then allows the gear stick to move (both side to side and front to back) when in gear. Mine has been like it for well over a year now but is only about 10-15 mm either way. The only real solution is to replace the whole unit (as in the whole gear stick assembly) although there is a thread on another forum about a company who are in the process of making an upgrade kit. Not sure how much that will cure the problem though as from what I have found most of the wear is in the large white ball joint that the whole thing pivots on which is plastic.
 
Buddy club do a whole shifter unit which would surely be good? Quite tempted to try it. I think what others have identified about the wear in the plastic ball joints is a good point. Over the years the plastic will wear. This is on my todo list so will update as and when I sort it.


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The BuddyClub short shifter is pretty amazing. I loved mine, although it takes a while to get used to.

Im 99% sure I was told they had stopped making them though.
 
Look at the white plastic pivot ball on the base of the shift lever. Observe the design. That ball gets tons of force every time you shift. As you shift tens of thousands of times, the plastic itself wears away and leaves a gap between the ball and the socket. When you replace it with the BCSS, the ball is snug as can be in the socket therefore eliminating play. The BCSS has the same basic design and materials as the OEM shifter, the only major difference being the lever lengths. It is prone to the same wear issue. Replacing with OEM will provide the same remedy.

 
My gearstick went a little sloppy the other day (tegiwa short shifter fitted aswell) checked it over and found the ball part of the shifter had worked loose, tightened it up with a spanner and it's sweet as now
 
I may check mine on Saturday. It feels a bit loose. Anyone have any pics of the internals?


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