Fast Road Set-Up
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FRSU entails changing the camber arms and camber bolts on the car to adjustable ones. I have Eibach.
Then the camber and toe can be adjusted to suit the cars needs.
For instance a negative camber on the wheels will give a more stable feel to the car and will improve grip under heavy cornering. (basically)
A FRSU is what it is, a set up designed for use on the road (Fast) so where it does improve grip and stance its dosent have too many negative effects on the car as opposed to a full track set up.
This mod is considered one of the best for a EP3, couple this with a few struts and spring upgrade and you will have a much improved, planted confidant feeling car.
Then the camber and toe can be adjusted to suit the cars needs.
For instance a negative camber on the wheels will give a more stable feel to the car and will improve grip under heavy cornering. (basically)
A FRSU is what it is, a set up designed for use on the road (Fast) so where it does improve grip and stance its dosent have too many negative effects on the car as opposed to a full track set up.
This mod is considered one of the best for a EP3, couple this with a few struts and spring upgrade and you will have a much improved, planted confidant feeling car.
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Neither a Honda garage or a local place (unless they are a specialist) would be capable of conducting the work correctly, you're best off searching for a tuning organisation close to you. There are many that forum members swear by, just depends which is closest to you
TDI north, TDI south, Artech, TGM motorsports, Unit-8 etc
TDI north, TDI south, Artech, TGM motorsports, Unit-8 etc
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You could find the data out and just take the car to an aligment centre and tell them what you want, they will most likely make you sign a bit of paper saying you dont blame them if you crash but they might be able to help.
Coilovers would be better if you go the cash, better wheel rate control then. Plus get some solid adjustable top mounts, too annoy your missus/mum and for easier camber adjustment.
Coilovers would be better if you go the cash, better wheel rate control then. Plus get some solid adjustable top mounts, too annoy your missus/mum and for easier camber adjustment.
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sorry my bad.
Suspension in a nut shell. Its all about camber control, a given tyre has an optimum camber angle where it can offer the most amount of grip. A perfect suspension set up will keep this camber angle no matter what position the wheel is in. This however doesnt happen in real life because of the nature of the suspension the wheel pivots about the wishbone on an arc so the camber when the wheel is at the highest point (bump) is larger than that when the wheel is at the lowest point (droop).
So you can imagine how this can effect the grip avaliable, if you have the wheel set at ideal camber when stationary when you turn a corner the outside wheel's camber will increase and the inside wheel's camber will decrease. Therefore neither of them are at optimum camber! Its always a comprimise, on a road car there is so much suspension travel and every corner you drive round will cause different loadings on the suspension that you will NOT ever always have a wheel at optimum camber.
Wheel rate is the rate which the wheel moves in either bump or droop. For max control over this you want the wheel rate to equal the spring rate, however due to our cars not having double wishbone suspension (among other things) this is not the case. The ratio of wheel rate to spring rate is called the installation ratio, race cars will often get this as close to 1 as possible.
The better control you have over the wheel movement, will help maintain a given camber angle. Make sense?
Suspension in a nut shell. Its all about camber control, a given tyre has an optimum camber angle where it can offer the most amount of grip. A perfect suspension set up will keep this camber angle no matter what position the wheel is in. This however doesnt happen in real life because of the nature of the suspension the wheel pivots about the wishbone on an arc so the camber when the wheel is at the highest point (bump) is larger than that when the wheel is at the lowest point (droop).
So you can imagine how this can effect the grip avaliable, if you have the wheel set at ideal camber when stationary when you turn a corner the outside wheel's camber will increase and the inside wheel's camber will decrease. Therefore neither of them are at optimum camber! Its always a comprimise, on a road car there is so much suspension travel and every corner you drive round will cause different loadings on the suspension that you will NOT ever always have a wheel at optimum camber.
Wheel rate is the rate which the wheel moves in either bump or droop. For max control over this you want the wheel rate to equal the spring rate, however due to our cars not having double wishbone suspension (among other things) this is not the case. The ratio of wheel rate to spring rate is called the installation ratio, race cars will often get this as close to 1 as possible.
The better control you have over the wheel movement, will help maintain a given camber angle. Make sense?
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From my experience, the name generally disctates how good/bad the ride will be with them. I used to own a set of cusco coilovers and they were amazing but was too harsh for road use. As for set up, once youve got the ride height and the aligment done you can just dick around with compression and rebound rates see waht you like. Its all down to personal preference and arguably unless your a racing driver with an empty track you might not notice much difference on the roads.
Annoying thing is alot of people purchase coilovers just so they can put the car on the deck...
Annoying thing is alot of people purchase coilovers just so they can put the car on the deck...
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There are also the MeisterR Zeta-R coilovers on special at £599 delivered at the moment.
The Zeta-R are design for british road so it wouldn't be excessively stiff for the road, the damping is adjustable, and it use mono tube dampers to provide better damping response.
It also incorporate a new "straight" steering arm design that relocate the standard track rod end to a lower position.
What this mean is that when you lower the car, the track rod will be in the proper location and thus taking stress off the track rod end and reduce "bump steer" issue that many EP owners face when lowering their cars.
Camber Adjustable top mount is also included so you can properly adjust the front camber with no need to use a camber bolt.
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with a fast road setup = WIN
The Zeta-R are design for british road so it wouldn't be excessively stiff for the road, the damping is adjustable, and it use mono tube dampers to provide better damping response.
It also incorporate a new "straight" steering arm design that relocate the standard track rod end to a lower position.
What this mean is that when you lower the car, the track rod will be in the proper location and thus taking stress off the track rod end and reduce "bump steer" issue that many EP owners face when lowering their cars.
Camber Adjustable top mount is also included so you can properly adjust the front camber with no need to use a camber bolt.
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NEW: EP3 / DC5 Zeta-R Coilovers Offer, £599 Delivered! (New Straight Steering Arm Design!) <-- Click For Info.
EP3 / DC5 CyberSpeeds Rear Camber Arms Offer, £75 Delivered! <-- Click For Info.!
with a fast road setup = WIN
