What is the best Header?

[Chris.]

To go with my Gruppe M and Spoon kit?

Only one of the best out there will do.

Lokking to pick one up after KPro.

 

[N77]

Would have to be Toda 8)


Carl

 

[Chris.]

Just been speaking to HASNIC and got the same answer. Damn sexy piece of kit!

Hmm.

More £££ :evil:

 

[G]

hmm may not be as clear cut as that. The toda is escellent bit of kit, proven. However as far as I am aware you will more than likely need the JDM anti roll bar so you have to factor that extra cost in. Also I believe it is one piece so you are unable to fit a race cat, or replace your old header and cat come mot time. I am sure the Jackson one is also excellent quality yet I think you can just refit your cat come MOT time, also you do not need the JDM bar. As for power the dofference between the two I am sure would not be noticable on the road in real world driving situations.

So pound per bhp and value it may be closer than you think.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

 

[Chris.]

hmm may not be as clear cut as that. The toda is escellent bit of kit, proven. However as far as I am aware you will more than likely need the JDM anti roll bar so you have to factor that extra cost in. Also I believe it is one piece so you are unable to fit a race cat, or replace your old header and cat come mot time. I am sure the Jackson one is also excellent quality yet I think you can just refit your cat come MOT time, also you do not need the JDM bar. As for power the dofference between the two I am sure would not be noticable on the road in real world driving situations.

So pound per bhp and value it may be closer than you think.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

How much is the JR one G?

 

[HASNIC]

hmm may not be as clear cut as that. The toda is escellent bit of kit, proven. However as far as I am aware you will more than likely need the JDM anti roll bar so you have to factor that extra cost in. Also I believe it is one piece so you are unable to fit a race cat, or replace your old header and cat come mot time. I am sure the Jackson one is also excellent quality yet I think you can just refit your cat come MOT time, also you do not need the JDM bar. As for power the dofference between the two I am sure would not be noticable on the road in real world driving situations.

So pound per bhp and value it may be closer than you think.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

I don't think the stock cat will bolt into the JR header?

Not sure what you mean by can't replace your old header and cat come mot time? It just a case of unbolting it and putting the stock one back in?

 

[G]

What I mean is I thought with the Jackson you could fit a race cat as it came in two pieces it has an intermmediate pipe that replaces the cat part, but with a toda it was all one piece? So when you go mot, you have to replace the header with your oem one. But with the Jackson you could just re-fit the cat. I guess I was missinformed then

Cost around £580 ish I think or less.

 

[N77]

You can't fit a standard cat is no, Guy modifys the existing JR pipe thats with the header to incorporate a race cat to pass emmisions etc...

When you add the cost of a race cat though plus modifying etc.. is it worth it ? and seeing Chris has a pretty new car he wouldn't need to worry for a while (the reason I had mine fitted about 2 months after getting the car :lol:


Carl

 

[G]

You can't fit a standard cat is no, Guy modifys the existing JR pipe thats with the header to incorporate a race cat to pass emmisions etc...

When you add the cost of a race cat though plus modifying etc.. is it worth it ? and seeing Chris has a pretty new car he wouldn't need to worry for a while (the reason I had mine fitted about 2 months after getting the car :lol:


Carl

fair do's Carl. Though at least you would have a system that has the benifits of a header but will still pass the mot. And I am sure even with the mods it would be cheaper than the Toda plus Anti Roll bar (though I am aware that the bar is not allways needed). Just an option of course

I am sure Guy could let us know the cost of both systems.

 

[Chris.]

You can't fit a standard cat is no, Guy modifys the existing JR pipe thats with the header to incorporate a race cat to pass emmisions etc...

When you add the cost of a race cat though plus modifying etc.. is it worth it ? and seeing Chris has a pretty new car he wouldn't need to worry for a while (the reason I had mine fitted about 2 months after getting the car :lol:


Carl

fair do's Carl. Though at least you would have a system that has the benifits of a header but will still pass the mot. And I am sure even with the mods it would be cheaper than the Toda plus Anti Roll bar (though I am aware that the bar is not allways needed). Just an option of course

I am sure Guy could let us know the cost of both systems.

From what I read on the Toda site the bar is required.

 

[HASNIC]

You can't fit a standard cat is no, Guy modifys the existing JR pipe thats with the header to incorporate a race cat to pass emmisions etc...

When you add the cost of a race cat though plus modifying etc.. is it worth it ? and seeing Chris has a pretty new car he wouldn't need to worry for a while (the reason I had mine fitted about 2 months after getting the car :lol:


Carl

fair do's Carl. Though at least you would have a system that has the benifits of a header but will still pass the mot. And I am sure even with the mods it would be cheaper than the Toda plus Anti Roll bar (though I am aware that the bar is not allways needed). Just an option of course

I am sure Guy could let us know the cost of both systems.

From what I read on the Toda site the bar is required.

As are engine mounts to stop the manifold cracking.

 

[G]

Yeah I think so m8. So far I have been ok, but I may upgrade anyway as two bolts holding my JRSC on have sheared....again! Just wondering if less engine movement may put a we bit less strain on.

Any way back on topic

 

[hovblackctr]

Yeah I think so m8. So far I have been ok, but I may upgrade anyway as two bolts holding my JRSC on have sheared....again! Just wondering if less engine movement may put a we bit less strain on.

Any way back on topic

ah right mate yes thats probably why i haven't had these problems on my jrsc.

I have energy suspension engine mounts.

A freindly MOT station is always handy if you don't want to keep changing your manifold come MOT time aswell! :wink: :lol:

 

[Chris.]

Think I'll be going for the Toda in a few weeks with KPro 8)

 

[Harv]

Im going to have pretty much the same set up, but instead of Spoon im going for Fujitsubo RM-01 exhaust 8)

 

[Chris.]

I've changed the exhaust to a Apexi hayabusa. Think I might go for the Spoon manifold instead though.

 

[ritzctr]

I just got DCRH and Kpro done at TDi a few weeks back and loving it. :twisted:

 

[Awesam]

For the price u cant beat the DC Sport

For performance i would say Toda

 

[JonCTR]

I've changed the exhaust to a Apexi hayabusa. Think I might go for the Spoon manifold instead though.

The JDM 2-1 cat section will also fit on the Spoon 4-2 manifold in place of the Spoon 2-1 section for MOT time

Jon

 

[Chris.]

I've changed the exhaust to a Apexi hayabusa. Think I might go for the Spoon manifold instead though.

The JDM 2-1 cat section will also fit on the Spoon 4-2 manifold in place of the Spoon 2-1 section for MOT time

Jon

Thats why I mentioned it, Paul at TDi North informed me.

Is there likely to be a huge amount of difference gains wise between the Spoon and Toda?

Pics of Spoon would be nice too.