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Hmm, interesting points. So the current type r has arguably better reviews and excitement than the A35, old golf R, s3 etc, yet sat a good few grand cheaper. Now a brand new mk8 golf gti is 38k with options, with the afore 4wd mentioned as good as 40k+ cars so Honda have raised the price but are still comfortably cheaper. I still think compared to those it offers good value for money, clearly not as 2,3 years ago but compared with its rivals. And it’s all about the monthlies for many so as long as it’s affordable still in now they structure it.Dealer keeps on ringing me to swap, hell knows why, every time he checks there are no cars available until March (sonic) June for others and said the offer isn’t competitive.
I paid £33.1k for my car January 2018, today the same spec and colour car £36.9k (limited edition car doesn’t seem bad value!) personally I found at 33k it seemed reasonable value but I can’t see me buying another Civic Type R now or in the future.
2022 car is going to be a 40k car for sure. When you look at the Yaris perhaps it is inline price wise and the hot hatch market is going to move to a smaller 30-40k car, Fiesta, Subaru I imagine will bring out cars like the Yaris as both into Rallying.
Where does that leave the current range of ‘Hot Hatches’ and the Type R. With the new Civic (might as well call it an Accord as it is even bigger!) allegedly going to be petrol only, I foresee the next type r flopping due to high price and relatively average performance against the likes of VW, BMW, Merc who will produce hybrid ‘super hatches’, leaving Honda in the U.K. lacking anything interesting again. Took me 18 years to come back after to something interesting after my earlier exploits.
What’s peoples thoughts?
Very good point and I agree. The civic launch on twitch was extremely North American focused, didn’t mention Europe. Wouldn’t be surprised if we didn’t get itGiven Honda's tiny European sales, especially for the FK8, it makes me wonder if they will bother with a new Type R in Europe. Most of their sales come from the US and Asia Pac.
If they do and it's even bigger than the FK8 I wouldn't buy one anyway no matter how good it was.
For me, though, the new golf R just looks a bit boring? But i guess i drive an FK8 so i'm always going to say that. Now that GTI Clubsport in white looks more like it however. For me, also, 4wd on a hot hatch is wrong - just too much grip to make it fun.........but i haven't driven a GR Yaris yet!!https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-germancars/new-vw-golf-r-on-sale-now-from---163-39k---/43456
£41K plus for the R with drift mode, £37K for the clubsport (edit: 44k easy with sensible options)
I was way off in my rant with the standard mk8 GTI, probably 35K with options (not 38K)
So yeah positioning of the new R IF WE GET IT will be interesting