AEM ECU
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The Kpro is alot better for our engines I have been told as they have more maps for each cam angle etc... where as the AEM doesn't.
At the end of the day whats better at running your car than a standard ECU, this was the reason I think that Hondata choose to modify the existing ECU.
The AEM is a very good ECU though and is used on many other applications but for me I prefer the Hondata as they are focused on Honda engines.
Carl
At the end of the day whats better at running your car than a standard ECU, this was the reason I think that Hondata choose to modify the existing ECU.
The AEM is a very good ECU though and is used on many other applications but for me I prefer the Hondata as they are focused on Honda engines.
Carl
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N77_CEJ said:
Yes, I think Doug explained that the number and/or resolution of the mapping points was much greater in the Hondata than AEM. AEM has real time mapping, but you only have to wait less than 10 secs to upload a k-pro map anyway. The number of new maps coming out from Hondata for various cams and headers looks pretty impressive now.
Jon
JonCTR said:
The AEM has less Res than the Honda unit, but then your engine only uses one or two maps at most when on full throttle.
The OEM has many maps, to get the best optimum out of the car when on part throttle -- helps the car to meet emission laws etc.
Just to point out, 10 secs is a very long time in the engine tuning game. Just ask any proper 'tuner' specially those that build race engines / cars. It's enough time for your engine to go 'bang' or serious damage to occur. Hence why some tuners wont touch the Hondata KPro, due to the inherent risks.
I'm running the AEM, with no issues, seems ok to me. it is a stand alone ECU as well, a newer verson is due soon as well.
But, then mines one of the more serious K20 builds out, therefore want to protect / remove tuning risks, hence why AEM is being used.
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Shock horror its crap! :lol: :lol: :lol:
I wont divulge my sources... :wink: :wink: but there was a car in for a dyno tune today with one of these AEM ECU's that was supplied fitted and mapped by a Honda "Specialist" Tuners that have now folded.
Car was put on a dyno and made standard power with mods including JDM cams. It was lacking midrange as well.
ECU was swapped for a Kpro to prove a point and even with a stock map and no tuning it made a very healthy gain. the owner of the car is now going Kpro...
I hear software is very awkward to use plus AEM isnt a Honda ECU so doesnt retain a few other functions that are in-built into the Honda ECU like immobiliser, Aircon etc etc.
If you are considering going AEM I would suggest calling a tuner first who is an agent for both AEM and Hondata and he will give you the lowdown. :wink:
Biggest plus seems to be on the fly data changing but what good is that if your tuning on a dyno? You do your power run, check the datalog then make your changes. Its just not necessary. Maybe on other cars it may be of more use but for the pricetag and functionality maybe you should be thinking more about proper motorsport application ECU's like Motec or Gems? :!:
Hopefully the owner will be on to give his view/feedback on living with the unit and issues encountered. (This was on an EP3 btw.)
I wont divulge my sources... :wink: :wink: but there was a car in for a dyno tune today with one of these AEM ECU's that was supplied fitted and mapped by a Honda "Specialist" Tuners that have now folded.
Car was put on a dyno and made standard power with mods including JDM cams. It was lacking midrange as well.
ECU was swapped for a Kpro to prove a point and even with a stock map and no tuning it made a very healthy gain. the owner of the car is now going Kpro...
I hear software is very awkward to use plus AEM isnt a Honda ECU so doesnt retain a few other functions that are in-built into the Honda ECU like immobiliser, Aircon etc etc.
If you are considering going AEM I would suggest calling a tuner first who is an agent for both AEM and Hondata and he will give you the lowdown. :wink:
Biggest plus seems to be on the fly data changing but what good is that if your tuning on a dyno? You do your power run, check the datalog then make your changes. Its just not necessary. Maybe on other cars it may be of more use but for the pricetag and functionality maybe you should be thinking more about proper motorsport application ECU's like Motec or Gems? :!:
Hopefully the owner will be on to give his view/feedback on living with the unit and issues encountered. (This was on an EP3 btw.)
The most important part of an AEM set up is the tuner, if the car is only making stock and it has mods then I would suggest gettg someone better to tune the car.
I have seen AEM tuners get 10-20 % increases out of a stock car, so with mods if done properly then there is no way that you will only get stock results.
I have seen AEM tuners get 10-20 % increases out of a stock car, so with mods if done properly then there is no way that you will only get stock results.
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simonprelude said:
Exactly.
Remeber though on the Civic you loose some functions that are embedded into the Honda ECU.
If you were binning/stripping for racing maybe the AEM is a viable option, but then again I would still probably lean towards the Kpro or maybe a high end stand alone motorsport ECU that has a track record.
After all....a couple of the Britcars are running Kpro so it cant be that bad. :wink:
Cough cough....tuning by TDi North I might add. :twisted:
