Trung said:I think The Keiser has them installed in his CTR.
MilanoChris said:Bit of a newb question this, but how is the air filtered
Sara said:Guy....
Can you let me know any more info on them, dosent say much on your website. Also with a set of 'aftermarket' cams what do you reckon power would be roughly knowing what my car has already??
CPL Website said:In both the most recent K20 application and previous B series applications this conversion gives a solid 20 Wheel Horse Power improvement. Coupled with a good combination of Exhaust system and cams power is produced in excess of 9000rpm.
tp said:Sara said:Guy....
Can you let me know any more info on them, dosent say much on your website. Also with a set of 'aftermarket' cams what do you reckon power would be roughly knowing what my car has already??
CPL Website said:In both the most recent K20 application and previous B series applications this conversion gives a solid 20 Wheel Horse Power improvement. Coupled with a good combination of Exhaust system and cams power is produced in excess of 9000rpm.
Notice the "Solid" 20bhp power improvement.
Now look at this:
This dyno graph was with the addition of IPS K2 camshafts. :!:
And I recall a certain race car with Toda A2's running about 200@wheels on the CPL dyno last year. (It was the one evilowl dug up the plots for where they tried the std vs ITR vs Toda A2 camshafts on a Motec ecu then went to CPL to try a Kpro)
Now look at this:
Its the actual IPS results measured at wheel of just the K2 camshafts with intake and exhaust.
And this was the screenshot of 2 identical cars one with Toda N2's and the other with IPS K2's on the same day on the System-R dyno before the software upgrade. Note that both made manufacturers quoted figures:
Today I saw a K2 installed car run a 220bhp@wheels with intake and exhaust on the now upgraded dyno at TDi.
I want ITB's, but by the evidence so far I will be holding out until I see considerably better results either from the same car on another dyno, 1/4 mile times (terminals more than et's :wink: ) or other cars.
Slightly off topic, what were the results from Stanwans running with the clockwise ITB's?
I saw the Nemesis cars results but they were quoting something daft like 22% wheel losses. :?
The Keiser said:My graph is on a Dyno Dynamics RR in shoot out mode, the other garphs are not and to date the DD RR has proven to be far more accurate than any other system in the UK. That will be why your figures are far higher :wink:
tp said:The Keiser said:My graph is on a Dyno Dynamics RR in shoot out mode, the other garphs are not and to date the DD RR has proven to be far more accurate than any other system in the UK. That will be why your figures are far higher :wink:
Who says it's the most accurate in the UK? The owner of a 2WD one by any chance? :lol:
All tuners I have ever worked with !
It actually reads considerably lower than G-Forces 4WD DD as proven by people that have been on both. :wink:
this was run by Chris or John ?
When Saxo92 (fella who ran the std vs ITR vs A2 test) went to CPL their dyno was within 2bhp of the Owen TAT one. This made 197 on the Owen dyno and 200 on the CPL one. This is with the far lower spec Toda A2 camshafts, CDA airbox, Toda manifold and Spoon N1.
You state you cannot make this sort of power with camshafts alone. this has been proven to be possible even on the CPL dyno. Since then the benchmark has been moved along a long way. People are making 220+bhp at the wheels with the camshafts and CAI/exhaust modifications all around the world on all sorts of dyno's including DD ones. With the addition of ITB's you should be way over that, be it a low mileage engine or not.
You say it's been proven on the CPL dyno, yet no n/a car with these mods have made this on the CPL dyno [/b]"220ATW"
End of the day a dyno is a tuning tool and you cant really compare one against the other. thing is the facts are there if you look for them that the IPS K2 camshaft are one of the best out there and results on dyno's and tracks substantiate that.
Get a few miles on the car and this summer try and do a few 1/4 mile runs with proper timing gear. As a benchmark Paul Jones ran a 13.7 at 106mph with intake, exhaust and a set of K2's to win FWD class at Rotostock last year.
You want to be bettering that. :wink:
If you cant get anywhere near then seriously start to worry. :twisted:
As a benchmark I also did a 13.9@101 with standard cams last March with just under 10K miles on the clock. :wink:
TP
We would be happy to let you run your car on the dyno for a couple of power runs with our compliments. Just give Guy a call on 01795 668778 on Monday or email us at [email protected] with some dates convenient to yourself and we will fit you in.
Look forward to meeting you.
Regards
Lynn
CPL Racing
Tarticus said:TP ?
Im also interested to see what ITBs will do, and next year should bring some interesting results, lets just hope that these people who are having all the work done actually race there cars (i know its not for all) and not just band Rolling Road figures about like kids in a playground
Tarticus said:TP
We would be happy to let you run your car on the dyno for a couple of power runs with our compliments. Just give Guy a call on 01795 668778 on Monday or email us at [email protected] with some dates convenient to yourself and we will fit you in.
Look forward to meeting you.
Regards
Lynn
CPL Racing
There you go TP cant beat that offer and deffinately be intereting to see results, and then maybe you can all have a chat and be happy families
The Keiser said:the bonnet is not cut mate :wink:
Sara said:The Keiser said:the bonnet is not cut mate :wink:
What about the front panel??
Sara said:Interesting......The Jenvey ones need lots of serious cutting. Whose brand of throttle bodies have been bolted on your car??